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What was your experience I will be putting it down on the subfloor after I pull up the old white vinyl stuff. Any suggestions as far as manufactueres it is only 70 inches by 80 inches.
 
Posts: 1728 | Location: livin in the mitten | Registered: Mar 11, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Why are you pulling up the old white vinyl stuff?
Unless it's damaged and would show through, I put my peel & stick right over. Been down about 20 years and still looks great.
 
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The white vinyl flooring is now yellow down through the middle where I walk....it also looks like a tile pattern so it has fake indented grout likes...I am worried those likes will come through as ridges on the new tile....I could put one down and walk on it for awhile and see what happens. I still have to list my pros and cons for tile....grouted vinyl tile and sheet vinyl..
 
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In my experience, it depends a lot on your climate. If the weather stays pretty much the same from one season to another, the peel-and-stick tiles will stick pretty well to sheet vinyl. But if you have extreme temperature changes, the sheet vinyl will expand and contract and the tiles will become loose and shift. Then, all you can do is super-glue the loose pieces into place ---which actually works very well!

Whether or not the pattern from the sheet vinyl will show through the tiles often depends on the thickness of the tile. I've known people who've used leveling compound in the crevices, and that might work for you since you're doing a small area. Just be sure to sand the floor first.

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Posts: 1430 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 28, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by michelle1538:
The white vinyl flooring is now yellow down through the middle where I walk....it also looks like a tile pattern so it has fake indented grout likes...I am worried those likes will come through as ridges on the new tile....I could put one down and walk on it for awhile and see what happens. I still have to list my pros and cons for tile....grouted vinyl tile and sheet vinyl..


Save yourself a ton of work here. Go to your local "big box" store (HD or Lowe's) and go into their flooring dept. Ask them for a bag/box of "embossing compound".

You mix it like any thinset mortar and spread it over the existing vinyl with a trowel. It is only applied think enough to fill all the voids in the current vinyl. That will give you a perfectly flat surface so nothing will telegraph though to any vinyl applied over the top.

After that is applied/dried, apply a vinyl floor primer to seal everything. That will give you a very good base for self-stick tiles and it's about 1/10th the amount of work of tearing up the existing vinyl and then fixing the subfloor irregularities.

Apply your self-stick tile and you should be good to go for 15-20 years.
 
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I think Jim means leveling compound. (I could not find embossing compound listed at the stores).

About 3 years ago we torn sheet flooring up in a house that was built in '86. It was so easy. There was glue around the edges and only in a couple places in the room. They scrapped right off with a putty knife. I cannot say yours will come that easy but there is a good chance it will unless your home is much older than that.
 
Posts: 6720 | Location: North MN & Northern AR | Registered: Oct 01, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Some are perimeter glued and others are completely glued down. If it is completely glued it can be a bear to get up.


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Posts: 6856 | Location: Cary, North Carolina | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by metwo:
I think Jim means leveling compound. (I could not find embossing compound listed at the stores).


It depends on the store & brand. Some brands refer to it as "Embossing Leveler", some call it "Patch and Skimcoat". "Embossing compound" is sort of a generic term for all of them.

I'm usually hesitent to tell people to buy "leveler" just because they almost always end up buying self-leveling mortar which is the wrong thing to use.
 
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