Message Boards

Guidelines

  • Please be sure posts are category appropriate.
  • No off-topic or off-color postings.
  • Postings may be deleted at the discretion of HGTV Moderators.
  • No advertising is allowed.
  • Be Nice. No name calling, personal attacks or flaming.
  • Certain words will trigger moderation of the post. These words mostly cover political and religious topics, which are OFF the topics covered by HGTV.
  • For general message board help, click the tab labeled "Tools," and choose "Help" from the dropdown menu.
Full Guidelines

  HGTV.com
  HGTV Message Boards
Hop To Forum Categories   Remodeling
Hop To Forums   General Remodeling
  adding a pendant to kitchen with track lighting
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
adding a pendant to kitchen with track lighting Sign In/Join 
posted
I'm a diy trying to update my kitchen.I want to replace 2 fluorescent tubes with flexible track lighting which is self explanatory. But I'm having trouble figuring out how to add a pendant light over my sink. I don't want to run a track to the sink so it doesn't matter that I don't know how. My kitchen has one junction box in center of room controlled with a wall switch which I will use for the track lights. There are 5 receptacles in the kitchen. So how do I add the pendant?
 
Posts: 11 | Registered: Apr 27, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
You will have to add a junction box over the sink, unfortunately. Typically this is hard to do; I know from personal experience. Isn't there any light there at all? If there is, there will be a junction box in place.

In practical terms you could run a cable up inside the wall and ceiling from a disposal connection. This is not easy to do typically, with the counter in the way. I say practical terms because it may not meet code.
 
Posts: 12114 | Location: Eagle, CO USA | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
Thank you, Bob. My electical experience is limited to installing fixtures at a junction box and replacing broken outlets. So if I install a junction box, can I replace a receptacle with a switch and run the wires to the new switch?
 
Posts: 11 | Registered: Apr 27, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
Do you have a recepticle closeby that you can run a wire from to a junction box where the light will be? A lot of kitchens have a recepticle above the counters and under the upper cabinets. If so you could replace that box with a remodel double box. Use 1/2 for the switch and the other for a recepticle. You can pick up the power from that original recepticle to feed both with.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: redoverfarm,
 
Posts: 686 | Location: Applachain | Registered: Feb 13, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Picture of Sparky
posted Hide Post
Do you have access from above or is there a second floor above your kitchen? If you don't have access would the wire for the ceiling fixture be in the same joist bay as the place you want the light fixture above your sink?

It is likely time to call in an electrician, but the answers to these questions will determine how hard the job will be for the electrician to do and how much drywall will need to be repaired.


General Disclaimer

Any advice given here is general in nature and is not necessarily valid for your given area. If in doubt check with your local codes enforcement department for what is required when doing electrical, plumbing or structural work on your house. Permits may or may not be required in your area and home owners may not be able to DIY some tasks. I have no way of knowing if you have the skills needed to complete the tasks you are asking about, when in doubt seek professional assistance.

My advice may be worth exactly what you pay me for it. :-) For the record I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 
Posts: 6660 | Location: Cary, North Carolina | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Picture of Sparky
posted Hide Post
Using track to extend the wiring isn't a bad option. I did it in my bonus room to put three pendents above a table in the nook created by a reverse gable on the front of the house. Had I not used track I would have had to cut a few extra holes in the ceiling to get the wire centered above the table because I didn't have access from the attic.


General Disclaimer

Any advice given here is general in nature and is not necessarily valid for your given area. If in doubt check with your local codes enforcement department for what is required when doing electrical, plumbing or structural work on your house. Permits may or may not be required in your area and home owners may not be able to DIY some tasks. I have no way of knowing if you have the skills needed to complete the tasks you are asking about, when in doubt seek professional assistance.

My advice may be worth exactly what you pay me for it. :-) For the record I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 
Posts: 6660 | Location: Cary, North Carolina | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
The reason I think I can install a junction box myself is because I'm happy to say I do have access from above, and the receptacle is almost a straight line down from the place where I want to put the light. I'm excited about having this little project to get experience. Thank you all for your help.
 
Posts: 11 | Registered: Apr 27, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Picture of Sparky
posted Hide Post
With access above it is pretty easy to add a light. Are you planning on controlling the light with the same switch as the other overhead light?


General Disclaimer

Any advice given here is general in nature and is not necessarily valid for your given area. If in doubt check with your local codes enforcement department for what is required when doing electrical, plumbing or structural work on your house. Permits may or may not be required in your area and home owners may not be able to DIY some tasks. I have no way of knowing if you have the skills needed to complete the tasks you are asking about, when in doubt seek professional assistance.

My advice may be worth exactly what you pay me for it. :-) For the record I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 
Posts: 6660 | Location: Cary, North Carolina | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
Sparky that is why I suggest to the OP that splitting the single recepticle into a double remodel box would allow you to operate the newly added light with a switch as well as give the use of the recepticle. Personally I would rather have that light independent of the main light.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: redoverfarm,
 
Posts: 686 | Location: Applachain | Registered: Feb 13, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Picture of Sparky
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by redoverfarm:
Sparky that is why I suggest to the OP that splitting the single recepticle into a double remodel box would allow you to operate the newly added light with a switch as well as give the use of the recepticle. Personally I would rather have that light independent of the main light.


Just continuing the conversation. If the sink is on an outside wall, getting to the top of the wall can be a challenge depending on the roof line, and of course there is the insulation. However, if you can get to the top plate fishing the wires down the wall can happen. Definitely a good project to complete between now and the end of April when working in an attic gets to be a short term weight loss plan.


General Disclaimer

Any advice given here is general in nature and is not necessarily valid for your given area. If in doubt check with your local codes enforcement department for what is required when doing electrical, plumbing or structural work on your house. Permits may or may not be required in your area and home owners may not be able to DIY some tasks. I have no way of knowing if you have the skills needed to complete the tasks you are asking about, when in doubt seek professional assistance.

My advice may be worth exactly what you pay me for it. :-) For the record I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 
Posts: 6660 | Location: Cary, North Carolina | Registered: Sep 18, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata  
 

HGTV.com    HGTV Message Boards  Hop To Forum Categories  Remodeling  Hop To Forums  General Remodeling    adding a pendant to kitchen with track lighting