Back when HGTV first came on cable, my wife and I had never attempted what is now known as flipping. We started flipping before it existed, thanks to HGTV. The shows were reasonable. How to fix things, painting and changing an entire look. And of course, you could always do it in 30 minutes ! We jumped in and bought the worst house in the best neighborhood. One time we did it for profit, once for our dream home. We made 35K on the flipper and I owe HGTV the credit for the success. The dream home burned and being that we are older and totally on Social Security, the days of doing anything else is gone.
Where did all the shows go ? My wife dearly loved the shows where you took what was in your house, re-arranged it and it looked new. The decorating shows gave her ideas and she has always had a natural knack at decorating, she went over the top. Friends begged her to come help them do their homes. All this because of the basic shows.
Quite Frankly, I am going to give my opinion,
1.How many people can relate to someone spending 1 Million on their next frigging vacation home.
2. How many of us can enjoy watching people fuss about their next choice.
3. I am offended by the Gay rights buying homes together being shoved down my throat, over and over. My 5 year old granddaughter asked me why the two men were holding hands in their home. sorry
4. It would be so interesting to see a show that is targeted to those of us that are broke. How we can improve our homes with no money.
Go back to what made HGTV different, I am not interested in how the wealthy live, period,
Too bad for you and your narrow-mindedness. Everyone doesn't share your outlook or the same old shows would still be drawing a large enough audience. HGTV has never had more viewers than they do today. If you don't know how to have a conversation with a five year old, you won't find the answer on any television show at all.
Disregarding of whatever you may think of gays buying homes, the issue here is the lack of programming that we all seemed to like and that we all miss.
Unfortunately, I guess that you and I belong to a demographic (20-49) that HGTV doesn't care at all any longer. They think that those younger individuals are the ones that they should market for. I happen to believe that they are full of BS. That generation, if it has more money are not going to sit down (they all have carrers) and are too busy to watch HGTV as much as the older generation> All of this came about with the housing boom, but that is over, Perhaps they will understand that is not getting them any more viewers.
But what you're not considering, 321, is that the advertisers pay the freight and they would rather pay the same money for a million 35 year olds as for a million and a half 55 year olds. The market drives programming and it always will.
If I am understanding you correctly, I guess that the marketing companies, regard a 35 year old a more lucrative client than a 55 year old? even if they don't see their programs because of time constraints.?
I consider many of those women to be not only highly educated but quite discerning in their taste, I am over 55 and the absurdity of many of those programs like Love it or List it, Property Brothers would drive me up a wall. So how do they account for that demographic to be so important to them?This message has been edited. Last edited by: rker321,
Ryker, that is a question that I would like the answer to. What is it about that young adult age group that is so important to advertisers?
Are they easily influenced? Do they spend money without thinking? What is it that the advertisers think?
I miss the old HGTV as well. Where are the design shows? It seems like the network has lost focus. Shows like Design on a Dime, Decorating Cents as well as designer specific shows were informative and entertaining. Now it's about the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
I am also on social security, but gays on the network is fine. As a matter of fact, gays are often successful and talented designers. It could have been a "teachable moment" for the grandchild.
I'm sure the demographic differences can be googled in detail, but the most important thing to advertisers is to make contact with people who pay money for products in their category. Most people in their thirties and forties are in two income families. Many of them are setting up and improving homes. They are the target audience because they spend money in the category, not because of judgements they make about the shows.
I guess because I watch so little HGtV that I do not remember what is advertised there. And ,of course, I know the ads are king. That is what runs all of TV.
If I turn it on again will have to note the ads.
I guess that I must be the exception to the rule, I have always been in a constant flux of updating my house, and spending money on whatever home I happen to be. I sort of diverge with you on the fact that that demographic spends more money than the older viewers, They have children, they have college funds, they have expenses that we don't have any longer and our salaries are probably at the peak of our carrers I sincerely believe that we have more expendable income than any two family breadwinners that have tons of priorities than we don't have or the money to do it.
Go to this comment section and make a comment directly to HGTV. Another poster said these comments are passed on. I just came back to the website to do this, and I encourage everyone to do the same. I used to love HGTV so much! Now I HATE it!
As you can see for the amount of posts that I have since I joined this message board, I cannot remember the amount of times that I have posted my views to HGTV, but they are not obligat4ed to respond, and never have. And as you can see It really hasn't done any good at all. The only thing that they will respond to, is lack of viewership,
And that, they don't have.
I have just one question. Why are there no gardening shows on Home/GARDEN tv? There are none listed in the tv line up at all. I like the gardening much more than the real estate stuff.
If you find or get an answer from them, please let us all know.
I miss the old HGTV, too. I am a realtor and an interior designer, but I love the design shows most and am sad to see how few are on any more. There are only so many episodes of rigged House Hunters that I can watch.
Very funny. I wonder what a "Gay rights" looks like? Couldn't have told your daughter, "Because they like each other?" I mean really, it's not that hard. Kids will absorb as much as they can; this would not be a "birds and the bees" conversation, for goodness sake, she's only 5.
OTF, have you seen "Beachfront Bargain Hunt?" Now there's a show for regular people. While it's true, these are people who are generally (if not always) looking for a getaway home, they definitely tolerate ordinary-looking kitchens (sans granite); a family of six sharing one bathroom; a husband and wife with four children--2 boys and 2 girls--the youngest ones probably no less than 16, purchasing a 2-bedroom home; buyers who are happy to have white appliances.
The other day on the treadmill at the gym, I was giving someone the lowdown on the channels. "TV Land is channel ___, CNN is channel ___, and House Hunters is channel 53," I said. I automatically called the network "House Hunters"!
Fortunately for me, one who likes the fix-it shows, there's DIY.
I have been an HGTV fan for years but agree that the programming is getting away from what I have always liked about the shows. Love It or List It is so contrived that I refuse to watch it. Please get back to the decorating shows that made the network popular.
I just know that I'm getting sick and tired of back to back reruns of "Love It Or List It". The shows are always the same - homeowner ends up screwed out of a big chunk of their reno dollars because of the designer/project manager's (Hilary?) incompetence over some "unexpected" expense. But, there's always room in the budget for tons of decorative doodads. Who wouldn't want an $500 ceramic rooster for their kitchen counter rather than a second toilet in their home? This used to be my fav channel - but they're losing me a viewer. Shows like "selling NY" and "selling LA" were nice but they seem to have disappeared. Oh well, lots of other channels to pick from.
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