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I stopped watching everything but House Hunters, Intl., but now I am enamoured of Flip or Flop. The woman has such good taste. I love it.
 
Posts: 2618 | Location: Norco, CA | Registered: Mar 20, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I was watching this Saturday, and was comparing to the amount that these people spend on practically full renovations and what Love it or list spends for not even half of what these people do. antother comparison is Income property.
Love it or list and Property Bros, should see these programs and learn from them.
 
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I enjoy this show. I think it is funny when he says he can do the whole house for "x" dollars and she rolls her eyes. They do a good job. It is nice to see a young couple working together for their family success.
 
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I enjoy this show, too, but all the kitchens look alike to me. There's no designing involved, just planning. I would expect something that was "designed" to look unique or show some creativity.

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I would expect something that was "designed" to look unique or show some creativity.




i disagree! that would be more of a "custom" design which would mean more money! the type of buyers/homes they are targeting do not demand that. they do an excellent job keeping it so that it appeals to a wider range of people!
 
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the type of buyers/homes they are targeting do not demand that. they do an excellent job keeping it so that it appeals to a wider range of people!


So why is creating a kitchen from the same old template considered "design" and not planning or project managing? In most lines of work, a "design" has to be custom or else you're just giving the customer an off-the-shelf product.
 
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I think that is has to do with the price of the house. You can't expect a "design kitchen" in a house of 600,000 or less in California. Those kitchens are seen in the range or 1 million or more, which is not the average price that I have seen these people do.
 
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So why is creating a kitchen from the same old template considered "design" and not planning or project managing? In most lines of work, a "design" has to be custom or else you're just giving the customer an off-the-shelf product.



sorry but i have never heard that before!! i have seen lots of homes that have good bones and the layout was fine and they did not touch it. it was a "redesign" of the place.
 
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I believe it could be a matter of semantics. in any "design,"there is usually a "designer" using a custom design that a client wants to see. Now the word that many times I have seen use "redesign" it may not mean the same. many say the word when they are changing their cupboards and putting new appliances. These are not "designing" their kitchens they may use the term ""redesign. as changing many of the old aspects in their kitchen.
 
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I believe it could be a matter of semantics. in any "design,"there is usually a "designer" using a custom design that a client wants to see. Now the word that many times I have seen use "redesign" it may not mean the same. many say the word when they are changing their cupboards and putting new appliances. These are not "designing" their kitchens they may use the term ""redesign. as changing many of the old aspects in their kitchen.


Yes, it's semantics. They seem to use the word more loosely in real estate.
 
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I saw this Flip or Flop show for the first time.
I won't watch those two anymore. I almost threw up in my mouth after watching how these two
People act, the things they say, and the amount of greed displayed by both of them. This is
Is a replay of what happened to America in 2008. In 08 there were thousands of these so called
"House Flipping geniuses" all over the country. They built thier inventory up so much that
They couldn't sell it all between all of them. Each with 20-30 homes for sales at all time record prices for real estate. They ran out of buyers so they talked the bankers into opening up
the mortgage market to anyone that could put a bit of steam on a mirror. You had the flippers
Dragging homeless people down to the bank after buying them a shower, shave & spending $5
On a new set of cloths from the good will store. They would coach them into what to say at the bank
To get the loan. And the bank would actually process the loan, no questions asked, no proof of income. And the flipper would have bribed the appraiser to jack the appraisal up 60% over retail.
There all in jail now for the appraisals they signed off on.
These two "self proclaimed geniuses" per their Bio. Are two peas in a pod.
He has some type of freaky twitching, jerking, and his eyes bulge at times. And the sandals just
Ain't working. The woman looks anorexic, lip injunctions, her lack of weight is scary when you
See how anemic their poor looks. Poor little girl will never know what it means to have a childhood.
Shes **** around to all their work sites. When on one show they were crying like children that their business was going belly up on a flip because they were so deep in the hole. Then after they got finished with the remodel, they lost sssooooo much money on. They were offered full price for the home. That wasn't enough, they had to stick an average working guy for another $10,000 above retail. That was a example of pure glutinous greed. These two are the problem with America, so focused on themselves they haven't a clue about the real world.
 
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I saw this Flip or Flop show for the first time.
I won't watch those two anymore. I almost threw up in my mouth after watching how these two
People act, the things they say, and the amount of greed displayed by both of them. This is
Is a replay of what happened to America in 2008. In 08 there were thousands of these so called
"House Flipping geniuses" all over the country. They built thier inventory up so much that
They couldn't sell it all between all of them. Each with 20-30 homes for sales at all time record prices for real estate. They ran out of buyers so they talked the bankers into opening up
the mortgage market to anyone that could put a bit of steam on a mirror. You had the flippers
Dragging homeless people down to the bank after buying them a shower, shave & spending $5
On a new set of cloths from the good will store. They would coach them into what to say at the bank
To get the loan. And the bank would actually process the loan, no questions asked, no proof of income. And the flipper would have bribed the appraiser to jack the appraisal up 60% over retail.
There all in jail now for the appraisals they signed off on.
These two "self proclaimed geniuses" per their Bio. Are two peas in a pod.
He has some type of freaky twitching, jerking, and his eyes bulge at times. And the sandals just
Ain't working. The woman looks anorexic, lip injunctions, her lack of weight is scary when you
See how anemic their poor looks. Poor little girl will never know what it means to have a childhood.
Shes **** around to all their work sites. When on one show they were crying like children that their business was going belly up on a flip because they were so deep in the hole. Then after they got finished with the remodel, they lost sssooooo much money on. They were offered full price for the home. That wasn't enough, they had to stick an average working guy for another $10,000 above retail. That was a example of pure glutinous greed. These two are the problem with America, so focused on themselves they haven't a clue about the real world.


Roll Eyes
 
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I saw this program again this past Sunday, and although they are not filming any new ones any longer, I always look into the amount of money that they spend and then compare their prices with what Love it of List it spends and Property Brothers.
Even Income Property shows a lot more respect for prices than these other two programs.
The way that they apply any of the cost of whatever they are going to renovate, both Hillary and the Property Brothers could take a lesson.
Anyone knows that in any renovation, a designer should simply keep their mouth shut and allow a contractor/arquitect be the one that prices out the renovation that the owners want to have. and certainly not Hillary. we could all avoid the Oh sorry, we cannot do this or that with the money that you have given me.
As far as the Property Brothers, they could stop providing furnishings to their renovation on the owners money, that they have for their renovations. I still remember a 600.00 chandelier that could have been applied to perhaps fix or paint any of the rooms that they didn't fix.
Just bases on those facts, whatever you may think about this program, in my view is by far superior and more credible than the junk that they have on either Love it or List it or on the Property Brothers.
 
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I saw this program again this past Sunday, and although they are not filming any new ones any longer although they are not filming any new ones any longer,



that is incorrect!!

the should be finished filming the new shows - the new season begins on April 8th!!
 
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Then in that case, I guess that we all shall see hoe much they spend on all the renos that they do before selling these homes. The market has changed so we will see how they are doing.
 
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I do not like this show - never have - and they were extended for another season, unfortunately. He whines constantly. They talk about the money they lose, the risks they take, then call the nanny to watch their child so they can bid on a house. His arrogance keeps him from stopping at what they previously agreed was their max bid, and then borrow money from mom to finish it. And then, as stated previously, gets a full price offer on a different home - full price - but still wants more. I will not watch this show one more minute.
 
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