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    I see there are 2 types. reactive and non-reactive. Has anyone done either?
    How hard/easy was it?
    I live in a condo. with a patio about 5 ft by 10 ft.
    If I do it myself, I am guessing I cannot have the polished concrete. What I read you need a diamond sander. or something like that.
    I do like these images:
    http://www.acidstaindesigns.com/images/gallery/golden4.jpg

    http://www.acidstaindesigns.com/images/gallery/umber3.jpg

    Any advice? Or anyone have pictures?
    thanks
     
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    gee, that was a GREAT post i just tried to list,,, more trigger words, tho,,, wonder what they were - i did NOT cuss this time Big Grin


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
    Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 23, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    We have acid stain concrete .. 3500 ft inside...

    www.kemiko.com and GAye Goodman have some good info...she has a forum that has pros & DIY folks..

    We were DIY people.. scored & stained .. less than $.50 a ft...

    http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/becky42_bucket


    Becky
     
    Posts: 2926 | Location: Texas | Registered: Mar 29, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    never used their stains but see that name mention'd often from other diy-er's,,, from what they post, sealers're not so hot.

    nice work, beck,,, who's sealer ?

    This message has been edited. Last edited by: yes, its concrete,


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
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    imo, beck's work looks better'n the 1's posted,,, imo.


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
    Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 23, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    That sealer is actually from Sherman Williams...

    I know Goodman talks about the good the bad and the ugly .. so it's a good place to brainstorm...

    Ours has been down 3 yrs.. lots of in & out... dogs... lots of sand issues the first year while doing the yard...
     
    Posts: 2926 | Location: Texas | Registered: Mar 29, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    not sure what's happening on g's forum lately,,, no action,,, this's much better - http://www.decorativeconcreteforums.com/forum.php

    edit - NO financial interest in any forum or mfg,,, we're just dec conc artisans

    This message has been edited. Last edited by: yes, its concrete,


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
    Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 23, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Becky42:
    We have acid stain concrete .. 3500 ft inside...

    www.kemiko.com and GAye Goodman have some good info...she has a forum that has pros & DIY folks..

    We were DIY people.. scored & stained .. less than $.50 a ft...

    http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/becky42_bucket


    Becky


    So it looks like this is a pic of your floor?
    http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/becky42_bucket/...rrent=DSC00129-2.jpg
    Did you find it hard to do?
    Did you have to do some sanding or diamond sanding of the concrete?
     
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    Greg.. when we were starting the house .. I spoke to the concrete suppliers.. he told me how to order it ( without air) still not sure what that does... then the finishers did oiwer trowel finish...very smooth... 3 days later we scored the slab... as the walls went up we covered with rolls of cardboard to protect from chips and any glues or mud getting on them. When we were ready to stain.. we cleaned with tsp.... rinsed and let dry for 2 days.. then we stained, nuetralized, and began cleaning the residue... that was pretty much an all day project for three people. ( There were several hours in there that we were waiting around between stages)...we let the slab dry for another 2 days then sealed... 2 coats ... then finish coat...

    Like I said.. we were doing 3500 ft.... my brother had a dining room, hall and bedroom done ... they started on it Sat morning.. and had it cleaned and drying by early afternoon..

    If you have older concrete you may have to do an overlay .. the acid stain reacts with the lime.. and that may not be in abundance with an older slab... I have read about some products that you wash on that help with that issue...
     
    Posts: 2926 | Location: Texas | Registered: Mar 29, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    air's protection against freezing temps for critical surfaces (eg, we never used air for conc hgwys but did for bdge decks),,, steel fibers're added for placing a 'superplate' (extremely hard),,, NEVER use air w/steel fibers.

    if that job went well, your brother was lucky,,, 2 days for us + another 1/2 day to seal.

    lime is an ingredient of cement (cee-ment down south)[limestone, iron, silica, aluminum - lisa],,, it is always present in concrete,,, occasionally some contaminents/surfaces may interfere w/acid-stain reaction but its rare if you clean as beck did.

    none of these posts're a substitute for experience,,, you learn by doing - its like operating a backhoe,,, all the posts, forums, books, & videos help you do is get excited Big Grin


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
    Posts: 148 | Registered: Mar 23, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    What is the difference between all the concrete coverings?
    such as:
    acid stain, concrete stain, concrete paint, epoxy coat?
     
    Posts: 15 | Registered: Apr 07, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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    acid-reactive stain changes free lime by chemical reaction of the acid's mineral salts; conc stain could be either latex acrylic or a penetrating dye; paint adheres mechanically; epoxies're used as interior coating the 1st 2 - for best results, its usually also coated w/urethane.


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
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    Thanks,
    When I google for this. I get all kinds of different products. Acid stain, concrete stain, concrete paint, epoxy coat.

    Quick question. If you "paint" an outdoor patio, should you seal it with something? Or do most paints not need a sealer?

    (Just investigating all processes)
     
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    there's more, too Big Grin quik answer - if you ' paint ' something/anything outside, it shouldn't be conc,,, you either COAT, STAIN, or OVERLAY conc,,, THEN you seal it.


    ,,, but even i can't get 5gal of wtr into a 4gal bucket
     
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