Hi. Just met with second contractor who is also a home builder. He highly recommended sheets of Corian or Tere-stone on shower walls and floor for ease of cleaning and durability of floor vs tile with grout. Said that tiled shower floors eventually leak. He said he's installing one or the other sheeted walls in million dollar homes these days. I worry that it will appear cheap or boring (Bath Fitters comes to mind even tho the products mentioned are in the high end granite range). I do like the low maintainence aspect tho. Since resale may be in our future within the next five years, what are your thoughts? BTW, he said that Zodiac has surpassed granite for it's ease of care for vanity tops adding that sealing of granite is easy and done every three years. Decisions, decisions. Interesting enough, a heated floor would cost about $ 500 which is a far cry from the $2000 estimate from another designer unless the first designer was factoring on tile work labor?
Anyone in the biz installed either Corian or Tere-Stone sheets on shower walls? Anyone opted for either product in their showers?
I have no experience with this, but I love the idea. I've thought before that I would love to have solid surface floors and walls in the bathroom. I hate grout.
Sounds good to me too. I asked DH about our heated floor and he said that it was around $400.00 and he put it in. Are you going to get it now? I really loved it. Warms the toesies.
I do have corian type walls in the hallway bath/shower. It's fairly easy to clean with gentle cleansers. I have not noticed any leakage, and the back wall has a soap holder molded in.
One thing you should consider, is to avoid (like the plague) tub fillers with diverters built in. Since you're having plumbing changed, make sure they install a separate water diverter handle in the wall that diverts water from the shower head to the tub filler, etc.
(the tub filler in my hall bathroom has leaked horribily this whole time and it's nearly glued on, i have to hire a plumber to fix it)
Another thing to consider is hand holds in the shower and bath that are ADA approved. I always thought it was a good idea when bathing my baby for her to hold something while getting in or out. I believe they make hand holds and bars in decorative models and you will probably use them all the time, no matter your ability to get in or out of the shower/tub.
A small hand hold bar in the WC would be a good idea too, especially if you're replacing sheet rock there so the contractor can see where to install it securely. (the 2x4's in my WC are not close enough for hand bars to be installed)
WC=water closet (toilet)
Not true if the shower floor is waterproofed correctly. Most tile setters use what is called a mud pan and then put waterproofing membrane over that. If you use epoxy grout, not only will it be water tight, you won't have to worry about sealing the joints either.
If the builder is suggesting sheet goods for the shower floor, how exactly does he plan to deal with the necessary slope for water to drain properly. Mosaic tile is small enough to accommodate a gradual sloping of the floor to the drain, fiberglass pans have the slope built in. Anything larger than a 2x2 tile makes it challenging to create the angle you need for drainage.
Thanks all. Not 100 percent sure if sheet goods were mentioned for the shower floor. I believe that Corian makes a water tight molded pan tho. I was most curious about sheet goods on the shower walls. BTW, no tub in this bath.
Anyone have pebble floors in their shower?
Also, since I have a white Corian sink in the kitchen, I was leery to consider a white Corian shower floor because it does stain tho it can be bleached.
Good info regarding the tile floor option.
Yes, you just reminded me, we had a molded corian shower pan when i remodeled the bathroom several years ago. It goes over the 'mud' pan and was the size of the bathtub we tore out and had a 'non slip' floor. It was white but i don't recall it being difficult to keep clean. A good, easy choice with white DAL tile walls and Extra Height sliding glass shower doors.
Sorry, I was just responding to the above statement which made it sound like the shower floor was part of the consideration.
I almost made the same comment as SusanBradfordKent. Tile work shouldn't leak, if done properly.
When you start to make decisions about finishes it can be overwhelming. Everyone will try to sell you on their products, and they will make negative remarks about other products. It helps to have a bit of a vision before you head out into the crazy mob to shop.
My own two guiding words for bathrooms are always "natural, and simple". I always come back to products that fit those guiding words.
Can you describe your vision for your new bathroom in two words, Froo Froo? (It might help)
I think you should personally see what showers that use these "sheet goods" look like. You might like the look or you might determine the product doesn't carry out the vision you have for your bathroom.
Cocok is right -- so many contractors try to push what they like by disparaging the alternative product. I think I would have looked at him incredulously when he made the comment about tile walls leaking. Given that millions of homes have tile wall showers, wouldn't this be a HUGE news story if he was right?
We have tumbled marble river rock on the floor of our shower. We love it. It looks great and it feels great under our feet. When if we ever do another bathroom, or renovate, we will use the river rock for the shower floor.
If you do decide to use a solid stone counter top, ask for samples of polished, honed and flamed. That way you can see exact differences. Sometimes there is quite a change to the stone. We used polished for the vanity, because we didn't really need to be concerned about that surface being slippery.
No apologies necessary. I was not clear.
In regards to viewing sheet goods shower walls....Today's contractor offered to show me the bath he's currently working on in the million dollar home once complete, for that express reason. Also, his designer will contact me...probably Monday...and take me to their lg. showroom.
In addition, a good friend who is a realtor suggested we view the bathrooms in model homes so, if time allows, I might just do that. I know that past tours of Designer Show Houses always inspired me tho they clearly used the latest high end materials. I don't want to be tempted into living beyond our means.
One thought that occurs to me has to do with future plumbing repairs. Our plumbing runs up through an outside wall. Should a leak develop, the contractor would only have to take down the tile in the area where there are joints in the plumbing. We purchased extra tile in case there would need to be a repair of that wall. If we had the solid surface material, that whole wall would have to come down for there to be plumbing repairs, and if the material was damaged while being removed, would matching materials be available.This message has been edited. Last edited by: busyjo,
Busyjo, EXCELLENT points! Though I am one to plan for future problems, the issue of potential plumbing repairs if using solid surface sheets, did not occur to me. My DH might argue that most likely, we would be gone. If the plumbing were relocated/extended to an inside wall, this may not be an issue, but relocation may cost us more then if we kept the plumbing as is. We'll have that option tho due to the walls required for our water closet.
If we go the tile route, we will most likely order a bit more to be safe.
Thank you for your words of caution.
No experience with the new shower materials. We have always had tile on the walls and floor.
I did tile (about 50" high) out side of the shower walls for our bath and kids. It allows for an easy wipe down. No base boards to clean either since the wall tile meets right with the floor tile. The only consideration is that you have to factor in the thickness of the tile on the wall behind toilets. We had to change out the toilet tank to a smaller design to have clearance. Larger tank would not fit with tile thickness.
Tiling the walls was one of the best decisions to ease of cleaning imho.
I agree that you should get your own estimates too. We were told it was expensive to move a toilet on concrete slab. It really was not that complicated or costly in my experience.
Pic of wall tile in bath
~Like sands through the hourglass
~So are the days of our lives
Pic of wall tile and floor tile. No baseboard to clean.
Good Luck on your re-do!This message has been edited. Last edited by: Beau's Rose,
~Like sands through the hourglass
~So are the days of our lives
Thanks BR. Lots of info, but I won't be tiling walls tho I agree it is practical in a bath used heavily by children. Ours is a master bath. Any additional tile work other than shower and floor would make a big dent in our output.
BTW, our builder used tile squares continued onto the floor as baseboard in our bathrooms and the grout line where baseboard meets the floor did
not hold up well. If I had done it, I would have used a coved tile piece to bridge this area. otherwise, mopping/cleaning this area over the years will take it's toll on that grout line.
Keep in mind, my current tiles are the small squares that were often installed in circa 80's bathrooms vs the. Larger ones popular today.
Again, thanks for your input and pics.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Froo Froo,
I love the idea of river rock but not sure the rest of the family would....thinking of going safe with a kohler one piece floor pan for my shower base...taking out tub to have that size walk in shower, with simple curtain and a raised edge like above to keep water intact...planning to use 12X12 tile on walls diagonal on floor and squared on walls and in shower...very neutral ivory sort of like above too...but latest thing! I found an inexpensive vanity light I loved and switched all my faucets to oil rubbed bronze...who knew? I had heart set on brushed nickel but have that in kitchen so each room it's own is fine with me!
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